ROMAN MARS: This is 99% Invisible. I’m Roman Mars.
Greeley, Colorado, is a mid-sized city out in the eastern plains of the state. The landscape is simple and flat. Cow pastures stretch as far as the eye can see. And most days, the breeze smells of manure. Greeley is a meatpacking town. The world’s largest meat processor, JBS, has its U.S. headquarters there. And many people in the town work for the company.
ESTHER HONIG: When most Americans imagine a place like Greeley, they think of cowboys, farmers, political conservatives, and mostly white people.
ROMAN MARS: That’s reporter Esther Honig.
ESTHER HONIG: That was my assumption about Greeley, at least until I worked there as an agricultural reporter. That’s when I realized the city is actually incredibly diverse.
ESTHER HONIG: Test. Test. There we go…
ESTHER HONIG: A few years ago, I went to interview a man we’ll call Mohamed.
ESTHER HONIG: Hello!
ESTHER HONIG: He lived in a small, single-story house in a quiet neighborhood on the northeast side of town.
ESTHER HONIG: How old are you?
MOHAMED: 38 years.
ESTHER HONIG: Mohamed spoke Rohingya and only a little English, so we used a translator to communicate. At an old Formica dinner table, Mohamed served me coffee. He wore a longyi–a long skirt that’s customary in his home country of Burma–and he told me what life was like there.
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: So, he’s talking about the paddy–the rice. So, he plows the land and then he pulls in the seedlings. Then he transplants.
ESTHER HONIG: Mohamed was a rice farmer, but then he faced persecution by the government and had to flee his country. He was registered as a refugee by the UN. And eventually, after undergoing a rigorous background check, he was one of the lucky ones selected for resettlement.
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: “I was always thinking how America would be and what I will do there. And I was excited, especially…”
ESTHER HONIG: In 2015, Mohamed left the refugee camp where he’d been living and flew across the world, ending up here in Greeley. This would be his new home.
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: “So, when I get in America, then my case worker– Within one month, I got the job in JBS.”
ESTHER HONIG: JBS–the massive meatpacking plant in Greeley that we mentioned earlier. To get his job, Mohamed didn’t have to speak English. He didn’t need any prior experience. The caseworker didn’t even really explain what JBS was.
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: “He only said, ‘There are many different kinds of jobs. And you will do one of them.’ He said it just like this.”
ESTHER HONIG: So, he didn’t tell him that it was a slaughterhouse or that he would be working with meat? He didn’t know that?
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: He didn’t know that.
ESTHER HONIG: After his first week at JBS, Mohamed realized just what kind of work he’d be doing. He used a large electric knife to remove the skin from cow legs. It was bloody, exhausting labor.
ROMAN MARS: In most plants, workers assemble things, like cars. But in a meatpacking plant, the workers disassemble animals. They stand along conveyor belts, where line speeds run incredibly fast. Up to 450 cows are killed every hour. And the workers use wickedly sharp electric knives to break them down into cuts of meat, like chuck and ribs.
ESTHER HONIG: And as conveyor belts, meat grinders, and saws rumbled around Mohamed, he looked around the factory floor and noticed something else. Many of the other workers were from places like Somalia, Eritrea, and the Democratic Republic of Congo. They all arrived here as refugees, like him.
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: “I understand that people are getting that job as I did. There’s a case worker–“
ESTHER HONIG: So, he knew that everyone was getting the job the same way?
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: The same way, yeah.
ROMAN MARS: The scale of meatpacking in this country is staggering. Half a million people work in the industry, producing tens of billions of pounds of meat every year and generating billions of dollars in profits. Companies like JBS are among the largest employers in rural America. But the industry doesn’t just process animals. It churns through people. The work is so brutal and physically punishing that many don’t last long on the job. Workers often suffer chronic injuries from the repetitive nature of the work. They can also lose fingers, even whole appendages. Research shows that there are about two amputations a week across the entire industry, which means that meatpacking companies are always searching for new bodies to run the line.
ESTHER HONIG: But in the last 20 years, companies like JBS have come to rely on a new source of labor: refugees–arriving through humanitarian programs that are supposed to offer safety and a shot at the American dream. And it’s through this particular arrangement that rural Midwestern towns like Greeley have become home to thousands of people like Mohamed–men and women who fled violence and persecution, only to find themselves doing what has long been one of the most dangerous jobs in America.
ROMAN MARS: In 1904, the journalist Upton Sinclair went undercover, working in meatpacking plants in Chicago. Then he wrote a novel based on his experiences called The Jungle. He described poor, newly arrived immigrants, mostly from Eastern Europe, who worked in dangerous, squalid conditions.
ESTHER HONIG: These immigrants came to America chasing the promise of a better life. Instead, they found themselves teetering on the edge of poverty and hunger and facing working conditions even worse than today’s. The work left their hands so mangled that their fingernails wore off and they were exposed to deadly infections. They’d pour acid on sheep pelts and yank out the wool with their bare hands, scalding their skin. With the slip of a sharp knife, many workers had severed the tendons of their thumbs.
ROMAN MARS: But it wasn’t those brutal conditions that captured the public’s outrage. As Sinclair later said, “I aimed at the public’s heart, and by accident I hit it in the stomach.” People cared less about exploited workers than about what was ending up on their plates. Sinclair described poisoned rats ground into sausage or how cows covered in oozing boils were butchered and made into canned meat. Those were the images people couldn’t forget.
ESTHER HONIG: Even if Sinclair’s book didn’t do exactly what he wanted it to, it was still influential. Federal laws were enacted to enforce inspections and sanitation. But in the 1940s, it seemed like things were finally going to change for the workers.
ROMAN MARS: A boom in the post-war economy meant that people were eating more meat, which in turn increased the hiring at meatpacking plants. Workers’ jobs became skilled labor and were unionized. For the first time, their positions were salaried. Meatpackers could finally afford a middle-class lifestyle. They had boats in their driveways and pools in their backyards. But the relief was short-lived because meatpacking companies made a decision that would transform the entire workforce and add a whole new layer of vulnerability in an already dangerous industry.
ESTHER HONIG: In the 1960s, meatpacking companies left the cities where they’d been based for decades and moved their plants to rural America. The shift put them closer to livestock and cut down on transportation costs. Critically, it also let them escape the unions in the cities and the prying eyes of pesky reporters and politicians. But there was a problem.
DON STULL: Rural communities that they relocated to did not have sufficient labor for them.
ESTHER HONIG: This is Don Stull, a professor emeritus of anthropology at the University of Kansas. He told me that, without the unions, the working conditions and pay inside the plants declined once again. And to attract the workers they needed, companies looked south to Mexico.
DON STULL: Well, meatpacking companies had always advertised on radio stations in South Texas and elsewhere, which broadcast into Mexico, that there were jobs available in meatpacking plants. But in the 1980s, with the blessing of the INS, they actually set up recruiting stations in Mexico City.
ROMAN MARS: There were many reasons that these Latin American workers were drawn to meatpacking, despite its gruesome reputation.
DON STULL: One of the attractions of meatpacking for immigrants is that you don’t have to speak English to work in a meatpacking plant and you don’t have to have any pre-existing job skills.
ESTHER HONIG: By the 1960s, Greeley was becoming a leader in meatpacking. It was one of the first small towns to build a big, modern packing plant. And ranchers from all around came there to harvest their cattle. Increasingly, Mexican immigrants staffed the factory. Many of them had previously worked in nearby agriculture, but these packing jobs were inside–shielded from the hot sun–and they paid better than field work.
ROMAN MARS: In the 1980s and ’90s, new waves of workers arrived in Greeley–not just from Mexico, but other parts of Central America. They moved into the neighborhoods around the packing plant, which was now called Swift & Company.
ESTHER HONIG: By the early 2000s, about one-third of Greeley’s population was Latino. You could see it everywhere. The local grocery stores started selling fresh tortillas and dried chiles imported from Mexico. The schools created ESL courses. But the change also brought backlash. The city was starkly divided along racial lines.
ROMAN MARS: And meanwhile, in the background, another labor problem was brewing. It was an open secret that hundreds of workers at the plant were undocumented. The meatpacking company reviewed their workers’ documentation with a federal system called E-Verify, which was known to be deeply flawed. And on the morning of December 12th, 2006, the situation reached a breaking point.
ESTHER HONIG: That morning, Greeley’s meatpackers started the day like most other days. The first shift arrived at the factory before sunrise. They put on their hard hats and white smocks and took their positions along the massive conveyor belt, ready for the first slaughter of the day.
ROMAN MARS: But then, just before the giant factory rumbled to life, all hell broke loose.
NBC: Just after dawn, federal agents from ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, descended on plants run by Swift & Company, the nation’s third largest meatpacker…
FOX NEWS: It’s the largest ever crackdown on illegal immigration in the workplace. 1,200 arrests now reported across six states…
ROMAN MARS: Shortly after 7 a.m., agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged inside and swarmed the factory floor.
ESTHER HONIG: People ran like mad. Some tried to hide in the cattle pens or inside the bathrooms or supply closets. But in the end, hundreds were rounded up and arrested.
ABC: Several hundred family members gathered along the fence between the Swift Company and Highway 85. Some were crying. Some were praying. Others were yelling at the federal agents…
ROMAN MARS: Similar scenes played out in six different meatpacking plants across Middle America at the same time on the same day. ICE agents arrested close to 1,300 workers for having “questionable documentation.”
ESTHER HONIG: Overnight, Swift lost about 10% of its workforce. Without enough people, some factories couldn’t operate and the company was hemorrhaging money. It was a crisis of epic proportions, and it raised the same old question. Where on earth would Swift find more people willing to perform this dangerous work?
ROMAN MARS: This time, Swift found its answer in an unlikely place, a federal program meant to help people fleeing war and persecution. That’s when we return…
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ROMAN MARS: Before the raids in 2006, Swift & Company was already limping along financially. For years, they’d struggled to make a profit and then only got worse when they lost a large fraction of their workforce. Five months after the raids, it was announced the company was being sold to JBS, the Brazilian owned meatpacker.
ESTHER HONIG: The new owners got busy trying to solve the labor problem. One news article from that time reported how company officials met in a war room with maps pinned to the walls. They marked the cities and towns outside their meatpacking plants as potential recruitment zones. They advertised the open positions on the radio, newspapers, and billboards. But not many people wanted to sign up.
ROMAN MARS: And so, to dig themselves out of this labor shortage, JBS adopted a new strategy. The company set its sights on a new population. Like the undocumented workers before them, these workers didn’t speak much English. They were eager to find jobs and willing to do hard labor that many others refused. And crucially, they were in the country legally. JBS turned to refugees.
ESTHER HONIG: An aggressive recruitment campaign began. Company representatives went to Denver and staked out East African restaurants and mosques. They offered new hires a cash bonus of up to $1,500 and more for referrals. And they used these same tactics across the heartland, convincing refugees to move away from the cities, where they had access to federally funded support services. They chartered buses and drove hundreds of refugees to isolated meatpacking towns like Cactus, Texas, Grand Island, Nebraska, and Greeley, Colorado.
PAUL STEIN: At the time of the Swift Raids, right? Everything changed in 2006.
ESTHER HONIG: Paul Stein was Colorado’s refugee coordinator at the time–the most senior person at the state level. And he started to notice more and more refugees moving to Greeley.
PAUL STEIN: They were recruited by Swift–vigorously recruited. You had a lot of, at that point, primarily Somalis–some Burmese–who moved in to take advantage of the employment opportunities. And then those refugees would petition and bring their families.
ESTHER HONIG: According to Stein, as well as several other people I interviewed for the story, the number of refugees living in Greeley ballooned overnight.
PAUL STEIN: This is a story of backing into a plan rather than having the plan. It totally started because of meatpacking.
ESTHER HONIG: But when refugees landed in Greeley, they struggled with everything. Most of the services Greeley had developed over the years were tailored to Spanish speakers, not speakers of Rohingya, Somali, or Tigray.
ROMAN MARS: Housing was hard to find. And without translation services, families struggled to enroll their kids in school or see a doctor. Soon an office for refugee resettlement opened up.
JAMES HORAN: We started with a very limited presence. I think we had a mighty team of one–one case manager–who for a time actually worked out of his vehicle.
ESTHER HONIG: This is James Horan, the president and CEO of Lutheran Family Services Rocky Mountains, which ran the office.
JAMES HORAN: I think, you know, there really wasn’t an infrastructure for other than Spanish-speaking newcomers, right? And so I think a lot of it was just as simple as making the adjustment of new languages, new cultures, and everything that came along with that.
ESTHER HONIG: Gradually, you could see another wave of change washing over Greeley, once again driven by the meatpacking plant. For decades the town had been mostly white. Then it became white and Latino. Now, it was increasingly international. On the main boulevard, there was the Mexican grocery store. But you might also see women walking by in abayas. Eventually, a halal market and an East African restaurant opened up downtown.
ROMAN MARS: And the population of refugees continued to grow. Not long after JBS bought Swift, they announced a second shift, meaning the plant would operate more than 18 hours a day and they’d have to double their workforce.
ESTHER HONIG: Lucky for JBS, America’s refugee resettlement program became a steady source of workers. When I first noticed how this had happened, I was shocked. A program meant to be humanitarian in practice was pushing people into some of the hardest, most dangerous jobs in the country. But as I dug deeper, I learned this wasn’t part of a grand malicious scheme. The meatpacking companies were just taking advantage of America’s flawed resettlement system and how it was designed to work.
ROMAN MARS: America’s current refugee system first emerged in the aftermath of the Vietnam War with the Refugee Act of 1980. It increased the number of refugees admitted each year into the country. And for the first time, it created a standardized resettlement process overseen by the federal government. The new system helped to resettle the hundreds of thousands of refugees arriving from Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
PBS: They could be called the new settlers of the United States. And they come to America’s shores out of desperation, sadness, violence and deprivation from their own battered homelands. Many have escaped by small boats from the new communist governments. Often they brave dangerous seas in small boats, attacks by pirates, and months of overcrowded conditions in refugee camps. They’re part of the 300…
ESTHER HONIG: The resettlement program was well-intentioned–a way to welcome people and offer them a shot at the American dream. But it carried a built-in flaw, rooted in another American impulse. We wanted them to lift themselves up by their bootstraps. That’s why the very first priority of the 1980s Refugee Act was economic self-sufficiency. Refugees were expected to find work and get off government support as quickly as possible.
PBS: Job counseling is a key part of the orientation effort. Job skills previously learned are sometimes adaptable. In other cases, however, entirely new jobs must be learned and training programs must be set up…
ROMAN MARS: In the 45 years since the passage of the Refugee Act, making it to the U.S. as a refugee has become a significant feat.
ESTHER HONIG: To start, you have to undergo several interviews with international and U.S. agencies who decide if you qualify. They ask a series of questions like: Are you fleeing political persecution? Will you be killed if you return home? If the answer is yes, and you can prove it, then the U.S. government subjects you to a series of rigorous background checks and medical screenings. The process takes up to two years.
ROMAN MARS: If you’re approved and you already have family in the U.S., you’ll be sent to live near them. Otherwise, the State Department decides which relocation site to send you to.
ESTHER HONIG: Historically, the U.S. has accepted more refugees than any other nation. But once people get here, we offer them little support. Places like Canada give newly arrived refugees up to a year of services and financial assistance. But the U.S. gives people just three months. And then they’re on their own.
ROMAN MARS: When a refugee arrives in the U.S. to a place like Greeley, one of the first things that happens is that they’re assigned a caseworker who teaches them the basics of life in America, like how to find an apartment, how to take the bus and buy groceries, and how to see a doctor. But the most critical thing a newly arrived refugee needs to learn is how to get a job.
JON TABER: I started as just what’s called a “job developer.”
ESTHER HONIG: Back in 2008, early on in his career, Jon Taber worked at a refugee resettlement agency in Illinois. I found Jon through a researcher on refugee resettlement who worked with him at that same organization. They both thought they’d be helping refugees but soon learned that wasn’t necessarily true. In fact, years later, when I spoke with Jon over the phone, he felt a lot of remorse, which is why he was so honest and candid with me about what his work was actually like.
JON TABER: There is only a very, very small amount of resettlement money that these families are allocated. You know, if they don’t get a job pretty much immediately, they’re unable to pay their bills. So, you know, within a few months, they’d be facing homelessness. You know, like, literally, “Welcome to America, now you’re going to be a victim.”
ESTHER HONIG: At his job, Jon was up against the same clock as the refugees he was helping. He had to get everyone gainfully employed before their three-month safety net ran out. And he might have a caseload of 50 to 60 people.
JON TABER: I did a little bit of sort of skill development, but frankly we didn’t really have a lot of time for that. It was mostly get their resume together, try to figure out what they did in the past, and get them into work as soon as possible.
ROMAN MARS: But it was rarely that straightforward. We’re talking about some of the most vulnerable people on the planet. Many didn’t have any skills that would translate to the modern American job context. Some had lived in refugee camps for their entire lives.
JON TABER: They didn’t have any work experience. You couldn’t put, like, “sitting around the refugee camp.” Or you couldn’t put, like, “tilling the field,” you know? It just wouldn’t translate.
ESTHER HONIG: And so Jon and his fellow job developers connected the refugees with whatever employment options they could find.
JON TABER: It’s not like they were applying to some high level management position. They were at entry-level meatpacking jobs.
ESTHER HONIG: Meatpacking. Remember Mohamed, the Burmese refugee from the beginning of the story? This is exactly how he got his job. A caseworker referred him to JBS.
ROMAN MARS: Jon remembers it was one of the most reliable choices because meatpacking plants were always hiring and they paid better than most of the other options. With the high rates of injury and turnover, plants were constantly looking for new workers. And the jobs didn’t require any English or previous experience.
JON TABER: This one company, Tyson Foods…
ESTHER HONIG: Like JBS, Tyson is also a massive American meatpacking company.
JON TABER: Tyson would announce, like, eight positions or nine positions. And, you know, we would all show up with our refugees. And it was a very well-established feeder. It wasn’t a humanitarian project for them. It was: “Here’s a group of workers that’ll be efficient and effective and will work faster and better than your American employees.” And so that was the kind of relationships that we would form. So, like, we were selling a product, really.
ESTHER HONIG: And as time went on, Jon noticed that the recruiters he was in touch with at Tyson became more specific about what type of worker they wanted.
JON TABER: Not so subtly they would say, “Give us Burmese. These workers have worked out in the past.” And this sort of tacit understanding was we should deliver them these workers. If we showed up with five or six, like, Iraqis, let’s say, because, you know, Iraqis had personalities–big personalities that came from a different culture… We knew that wasn’t going to satisfy their demands. And that’s not something I’m particularly proud of, but it was just the realities we were facing.
ESTHER HONIG: He says this part of the job kept him up at night. He and his team at the agency even tried to come up with alternatives.
JON TABER: But nothing ever really worked, you know? The American machine just swallowed them up. And there was never any breathing room. I mean, the margins are tiny in our system.
ESTHER HONIG: After a few more years in this work, Jon left the field. But it taught him something about America’s refugee resettlement program.
JON TABER: The narrative that we’re giving people these great opportunities–there’s a dark side.
ROMAN MARS: The system is supposed to get refugees out of danger, but it then leaves them with little support. Many don’t have language skills or a safety net. Compared to other immigrant groups, they are overrepresented in low-skilled work, earn less, and are more likely to live in poverty.
ESTHER HONIG: That’s what makes them ideal recruits for meat packers like JBS. With so few options, they take jobs most others won’t. And even when the work leaves them injured, pushes them to work at impossible speeds, or exposes them to religious discrimination, many feel they have no choice but to stay.
ROMAN MARS: We reached out to JBS for this story, but they declined to comment.
ESTHER HONIG: Back in Mohamed’s home, he tells me a bit about what it was like when he first came to Greeley. It was a shock to leave behind the hot, tropical climate of Burma. He remembers he saw snow here for the first time.
ESTHER HONIG: What’s something that Greeley doesn’t have that you miss from your home country, Burma?
MOHAMED: [ANSWERS IN ROHINGYA]
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: Yeah, so he is talking about gardening.
ESTHER HONIG: Oh!
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: The gardening.
ESTHER HONIG: He said Greeley didn’t have the same variety of fruits and vegetables he was used to. So he started a garden in the backyard.
ESTHER HONIG: What did he grow?
MOHAMED: [ANSWERS IN ROHINGYA]
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: Many things. Radish, watermelon, pumpkin…
ESTHER HONIG: When I met him, Mohamed had been off work for several weeks on disability with an injured hand. He showed me how when he tried to make a fist, some of the fingers wouldn’t bend.
ESTHER HONIG: It gets stuck like that?
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: Yeah.
ESTHER HONIG: Just from the same gripping motion?
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: Yeah.
ESTHER HONIG: He had surgery a few years ago, but it still doesn’t work like it used to.
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: “And I cannot make a fist properly. And I cannot hold something in a firm way. So, this is the problem.”
ESTHER HONIG: Still, he tells me he’s eager to get back to work. When we spoke, his immediate family, including his wife and five kids, were still displaced and living in India. And he helped support about 20 members of his extended family as well.
MOHAMED’S TRANSLATOR: “Yes, I want to go back as soon as possible because there’s many kinds of bills I have to pay. So, I can’t go because I don’t get doctor’s approval yet.”
ESTHER HONIG: With this influx of refugees, the city of Greeley was once again transformed. In 2007, just one year after the ICE raids, the foreign-born population grew to about 13,000–a 76% increase from seven years earlier.
ROMAN MARS: In 2008, Greeley became an official refugee resettlement site. Now, instead of moving to Greeley from a nearby city, a person could be brought there directly from a refugee camp. And inevitably they’d be recruited for a job at JBS. It was a lot for a small city of 90,000. And just like before, it wasn’t always pretty. A local mosque was shot at in broad daylight. There was a small anti-Sharia law protest.
JAMES HORAN: In the lens of history, that was not long after 9/11.
ESTHER HONIG: Here’s James Horan again from the Refugee Resettlement Agency.
JAMES HORAN: And so, I think, there was a lot of focus on Islam and “What does it mean that now there is an Islamic community in my community?”
ESTHER HONIG: James spent a lot of time holding community meetings where people could come to ask questions. He remembers he had to dispel a lot of the same myths that persist today.
JAMES HORAN: Another thing I would talk to people a lot about is the security clearances that refugees go through because that was another question. “Is this a public safety issue?”
ROMAN MARS: But with time, Greeley once again adjusted. Today, there’s a strong network of support services, like food pantries and driving courses. There are free English classes and GED courses taught in the evenings at the local library. The public schools have a successful ESL program.
ESTHER HONIG: And then there’s the Immigrant and Refugee Center of Northern Colorado, which helps refugees do everything from interpret their mail to apply for citizenship.
KARIM ABDUL MUNAF: Yeah, I’m just helping him pay the bill. I think this is the toll bill that he needs help paying. So, this is, like, the regular stuff that we do.
ESTHER HONIG: This is Karim Abdul Munaf, who works at the center.
ESTHER HONIG: And why is that? Just because it’s all in English?
KARIM ABDUL MUNAF: Yeah, sometimes because it’s all in English and other times they don’t know how to navigate all those websites and everything. So, that’s one of the reasons they come here.
ESTHER HONIG: Karim arrived in Greeley about eight years ago. He and his family became refugees after facing persecution in their home country of Burma. He speaks Rohingya and helps other Rohingya refugees translate things from English, like their phone bills and bank statements.
ESTHER HONIG: So, you’re kind of able to be the helping hand that you didn’t really have?
KARIM ABDUL MUNAF: Yes. And I’m glad that I can help the community–to give them back–because I know how it feels to be lost in a new place.
ESTHER HONIG: Karim worked at JBS for two years, and so did his four older brothers when they were first resettled in Greeley. It was and still is the primary job in the area that doesn’t require English or any previous experience.
KARIM ABDUL MUNAF: I wouldn’t say a JBS is a long-term job. But for some of the families, they are planning to just do JBS for as long as they can. They have to do it because they have no other options here in Greeley.
ROMAN MARS: And recently, there’s been yet another new wave of arrivals. The many thousands of Haitians and Venezuelans who came to the U.S. on Temporary Protected Status. TPS allows people from certain countries to stay and work here if it’s too dangerous to go back home.
ESTHER HONIG: What community do you primarily work with?
DREI: Haitian community.
ESTHER HONIG: This is Drei. He originally came to Greeley from New Jersey because he heard about the work available at JBS. But after a few weeks, he quit.
DREI: It was overwhelming–a lot of pressure, especially from the management staff. They tried to get stuff done in, like, record time. So, it’s kind of challenging for your body and your mental. [CHUCKLES]
ESTHER HONIG: Then he showed up at this refugee and immigration center with a friend and was quickly offered a job because he speaks English and Haitian Creole fluently. Just like Karim, he helps Haitians navigate life in Greeley. But the day we met, things got a lot more complicated. The Trump administration canceled Temporary Protected Status for Venezuelans. Haitians with protected status would be next.
DREI: The Supreme Court just canceled the TPS for Venezuelans now. We are talking about, like, 300,000 people.
ESTHER HONIG: And that just happened?
DREI: Yes. They’re probably going to cancel for Haitians, too.
ESTHER HONIG: Do you think you’ll get a lot of people in here today asking about that?
DREI: The TPS? The fact that the news just came out, like, minutes ago–for sure next week it’s going to be overwhelming for them. They’ll come here and ask me questions. “What can I do?” “What can’t I do?” “What will be the next step?”
ROMAN MARS: The refugee program as we know it–the one created in the 1980s–is on pause indefinitely. The flow of people like Mohamed, Karim, and Drei has all but stopped, which raises the same question the industry has faced for generations. Where will the workers come from?
ESTHER HONIG: If I were the CEO of a big company like JBS, I might be wringing my hands right about now. Of all U.S. industries, meatpacking has the fifth highest concentration of refugee workers. And more broadly, about 40% of meatpacking workers are foreign-born.
JAMES HORAN: I think there’s definitely an economic conversation to be had. And I think employers will probably be the drivers of that.
ESTHER HONIG: That’s James Horan again.
JAMES HORAN: It’s just gonna be a math issue, right? I think when you’re an employer and you have a workforce need and you have a certain number of jobs open and you don’t have people to draw on to fill those jobs, you are limited.
ESTHER HONIG: As a country, we’re once again in a fiercely anti-immigrant climate. And while every country needs a fair immigration system, we can’t deny that the populations we’re targeting play an essential role in our economy. They don’t just fill jobs. They fill hard, dangerous jobs–the ones that most people will avoid if they have the choice.
ROMAN MARS: When people are deported in droves, it leaves a vacuum. When refugees aren’t allowed to come, it leaves a vacuum. And when there’s no one left to slaughter our cows, we’re reminded of a truth Upton Sinclair tried to tell us in The Jungle. This country depends on vulnerable people to do its dirtiest, most grueling work. We’ve just never wanted to see it.
99% Invisible was reported this week by Esther Honig, and was produced and edited by Delaney Hall. Mix by Martín Gonzalez. Music by Swan Real and George Langford. Fact-checking by Naomi Barr.
This story was reported in collaboration with FERN–the Food and Environment Reporting Network–and with funding from the 11th Hour Food and Farming Fellowship at UC Berkeley.
Special thanks this week to Collin Cannon, Ted Genoways and Brent Cunningham.
Kathy Tu is our executive producer. Kurt Kohlstedt is our digital director. The rest of the team includes Chris Berube, Jayson De Leon, Emmett FitzGerald, Christopher Johnson, Vivian Le, Lasha Madan, Joe Rosenberg, Kelly Prime, Jeyca Medina-Gleason, and me, Roman Mars. The 99% Invisible logo was created by Stefan Lawrence.
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If we stopped eating meat, these dangerous positions wouldn’t need to be filled. Veganism isn’t just about not wanting to torture and murder animals. It’s also a human and workers rights issue.